**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 24, 2003 12:22:03 --> Rantz (~rhoseley@216.23.182.21) has joined #moo3 12:22:04 micitian, not true 12:22:09 wow! 12:22:12 You have the right to think it's wrong, but you don't have the right to do much about it 12:22:13 lots o people 12:22:14 they don't have to release the source under the GPL 12:22:16 nah, after all the crap their fans gave them, they won't want to see the source anymore 12:22:21 no. You buy the licence to use the code, not change it 12:22:46 MoO rantz 12:22:50 MoO 12:23:01 morning kids 12:23:06 howdy 12:23:13 wow! Rantz! 12:23:15 Which means that when you break the disc or lose your serial number, they should have no problem with providing you a new one. 12:23:16 moo Rantz! 12:23:19 And yet .. 12:23:22 --- mmurray821 gives channel operator status to Rantz 12:23:36 How'd today go Rantz? 12:23:43 YES!!! THE HEAD MAN IN SANTA CLARA NOTICED MY HARD WORK!! 12:23:47 More parking lot fun? 12:23:59 mmurray821: Hard work? You? 12:23:59 * mmurray821 does his victory dance 12:24:10 Oh ya 12:24:13 Such as? 12:24:26 The web site I did for our new sister company. 12:24:29 Ah. 12:24:32 Good job. :) 12:24:34 The head hencho liked it 12:24:47 PRIVMSG #moo3 :lucky you got to keep his job 12:24:49 Link? 12:24:50 * mmurray821 thinks about asking for a raise 12:25:34 don't. You need to impress YOUR head honcho for that 12:25:48 Crap, I forgot about the impressing them part 12:26:00 * Mictian congratulates Murray for his site and being noticed 12:26:10 I did check it out 12:26:11 lol 12:26:18 Nice, mmurray. 12:26:30 * ArcanePumpkin returns from Japanese, "Konniti wa." 12:26:33 Not bad for a week and a half of work 12:26:45 So whats up today Rantz? 12:26:48 Murray: And remember: You don't need pants for the victory dance 12:26:49 and 40,000 meetings and changes 12:27:08 Even better without them. 12:27:10 * Ohnogdzilla knows you don't need pants for the victory dance 12:27:20 I'm sure Rantz can sympotize with the meeting and changes part 12:27:26 Pants? What's that? 12:27:32 lol 12:27:44 * mmurray821 doesn't wear pants. He wears a kilt 12:28:01 * Ohnogdzilla has multiple kilts 12:28:08 hahahahaha 12:28:32 you are not worthy of a kilt 12:28:45 you may use a skirt 12:28:51 :) 12:28:51 Zcenicx will die now 12:28:55 * mmurray821 drops a 30 ton block of marble on Zcenicx 12:29:06 Ow. 8 lives left 12:29:09 lol 12:29:16 what's the difference between a skirt and a kilt anyway? 12:29:23 * ArcanePumpkin drops a Tuba on Ohnogdzilla. 12:29:26 *I always play the mrrshan* 12:29:35 One has historical significance and the other doesn't 12:29:50 * Ohnogdzilla bludgeouns the pumpkin with a saxamaphone 12:29:56 skirts have no historical significance!? 12:30:01 One you can tell what clan the other guy is in, and the other you can't 12:30:16 SO many great women in history wore skirts 12:30:18 well, that's one way to put it - the scots couldnt afford new ones, so they kept patching their old :) 12:30:20 as an aside note, during William Wallace's time....they didn't wear kilts 12:30:34 of course they did, didn't you watch Braveheart? 12:30:34 braveheart was totally full of it 12:30:41 They wore full gown battle dress 12:30:45 laff 12:30:56 yes, but don't mix reality with movies 12:31:00 Well... Hollywood and historical fact mixes as well as oil and water. 12:31:04 Hai 12:31:26 n13, very true, kilts came around in the 1600s 12:31:35 nog, i watch the history channel 12:31:42 Alot of great men in history wore skirts, too. 12:31:49 Hence, "Pearl Harbor" depicted the American victory with Doolittle's Raid. That other thing was just... warmup. ;-) 12:31:52 J. Edgar Hoover .. 12:31:56 lol 12:32:00 i knew that was coming 12:32:04 :P 12:32:10 I am feeble and predictable. 12:32:29 Not to worry. There are worse fates. 12:32:35 Amistad 12:32:50 They ignored a great deal of facts for that movie 12:32:51 Misunderstood enigma, f'rinstance. 12:33:11 PRIVMSG #moo3 :action =/reality 12:33:14 Most historical movies miss out on a good deal of facts 12:33:28 that's what makes them un-boring 12:33:28 like the Patriot? 12:33:35 Unlike Titanic or Pearl Harbour. 12:33:37 sometimes 12:33:44 but facts just get in the way of the beheadings and the explosions 12:33:50 like 2001...man did they get the history wrong there 12:33:52 Veritable troves of historical fact, those movies. 12:34:32 --> Presto (~Presto@130.191.226.207) has joined #moo3 12:34:35 sometimes... just sometimes 12:35:02 --- ChanServ sets channel limit to 52 12:35:02 Facts do not hollywood blockbusters make 12:35:03 pearl harbour is a junk of bull as well 12:35:09 Hai 12:35:10 n13 is obsessed with 2001 .. almost as if someone really let him down. 12:35:20 it did! 12:35:22 I keep throwing this damn legbone up 12:35:26 --> Piotr (~blah@p663-86.customer.SONERALIVING.fi) has joined #moo3 12:35:32 but I never get a spaceship 12:35:36 :) 12:35:37 * ArcanePumpkin whacks Ohnogdzilla with a space-station! 12:35:42 we should have a moon base and be in orbit around jupiter 12:35:47 Get yer Kubrick right 12:36:08 I can't wait for 2063, then... 12:36:12 --- Padre8|class_sucks is now known as Padre8 12:36:12 owie...I got "Mir"ed 12:36:19 mo 12:36:20 SCREW DiffEq!!!!!!!!!!! 12:36:21 o padre 12:36:24 heh 12:36:28 PRIVMSG #moo3 :moo Padre 12:36:33 I'm going to skip it and go home :) 12:36:37 Good to catch you in a good mood, Padre. ;-) 12:36:42 lol 12:36:44 mustache frozen again padre? 12:36:46 yes 12:36:47 What I love is when a movie tries to make a point so it alters historical facts 12:36:51 it's friggin' cold here 12:37:03 where's here? 12:37:05 You love that? 12:37:07 I don't. I hate it. 12:37:08 Don't preach to an ohioan about the cold man 12:37:10 Its funny 12:37:11 central missouri 12:37:13 * ArcanePumpkin has to take a Diff Eq class next quarter, and he's not too keen on the 400-level work it will involve.. 12:37:15 lol 12:37:27 hehehe 12:37:30 400-level???? 12:37:38 two of the 4 OSU boarders are in the room 12:37:45 good lord, do you go to a liberal arts college or something??? 12:37:46 :) 12:37:51 OSU 12:38:07 What I love is when a movie tries to make a point so it alters historical facts <<-- what movie? 12:38:07 diffeq is 200 level here 12:38:16 eep 12:38:28 *gag* OSU 12:38:40 400 level is something along the lines of seriously f*ed up advanced calculus 12:38:40 * Ohnogdzilla has had his killing rage awakened 12:38:46 Lots of movies Piotr 12:38:48 gah 12:38:50 oh 12:39:22 omg, I just looked at a differential equation 12:39:23 stuff that the average in the class on tests is aroun 35% 12:39:26 i wish i hadn't 12:39:28 So much for examples. 12:39:32 * Ohnogdzilla bludgeons toproq to death while singing "Carmen Ohio" 12:39:47 :) 12:39:54 Do you really want me to go into examples? Its not like they arent obvious. 12:39:59 * Padre8 is staying away from that crap 12:40:01 my old class had the bell curve all screwed up, there was no tip on the curve 12:40:03 --- ChanServ sets channel limit to 53 12:40:03 twex> why not? 12:40:05 everyone was either really high or really low 12:40:05 lol 12:40:10 (grade-wise) 12:40:11 because they are confusing 12:40:13 Not obivous enough to bring up, anyways. :) 12:40:29 then again, there was 11 people in the class 12:40:31 heh heh 12:40:32 they also remind me of school 12:40:40 lo Rantz ;) 12:40:40 school - blech 12:41:00 oh, Rantz is here, 'lo 12:41:01 * ArcanePumpkin nods to Padre, "Yep, 400-level. And, yes, I am laggier than all get out." 12:41:01 * Padre8 realizes rantz is here 12:41:04 hi rantz 12:41:14 when'd he sneak in 12:41:18 * ArcanePumpkin belatedly waves to Rantz, "Konniti wa" 12:41:27 News! News! the population demands news! 12:41:34 Piotr> about 20 minutes ago ;) 12:41:40 * Padre8 askes "is the game gold yet" and runs and hides in the corner 12:41:41 ah, before me then ;P 12:41:41 lol 12:41:47 wakarimas 12:41:47 * Ohnogdzilla runs and hides in the corner of a circular room 12:41:57 * Piotr sits and wonders why his network card refuses to work properly in linux :/ 12:41:59 was eating a steak...mmm..goood...mmm... 12:42:03 we would know if the game is gold, wouldn't we 12:42:03 oniz, same here :D 12:42:04 mmmm 12:42:05 steak is good yes 12:42:05 steak 12:42:08 don't use linux :) 12:42:11 also bull? 12:42:12 steak 12:42:14 * Padre8 wants steak 12:42:24 foodmongerer 12:42:25 --> Grimn (~ninguable@adsl-208-191-126-219.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) has joined #moo3 12:42:34 oniz, nah.. pig 12:42:36 Heres one example. Pearl harbor. They actually got sued because the producers tried to insinuate a real life captain had information abotu the attack that he did not. 12:42:36 ulkofile :D 12:42:47 mm, härän sisäfile, mediumina, mmm 12:42:54 if a game goes gold and no one in irc is told, does it make a sound? 12:42:58 well, I'm going to go home now 12:42:59 fried mine for 5 mins on each side 12:43:00 yim 12:43:02 er.. yum 12:43:06 I wouldn't know. I never saw Pearl Harbour. I don't see bad movies. 12:43:07 I think Rantz is just in here to laugh at us 12:43:08 Oniz, are you speaking Gelfling again? 12:43:15 which means, to get in here, I'll need to use the java client :( 12:43:17 yeah Presto 12:43:21 *sniker* Gelfliing 12:43:24 Thats a bad thing? 12:43:24 :) 12:43:30 * Padre8 waves goodbye 12:43:33 hrm 12:43:38 ahgobyebye 12:43:38 So there Keb, Piotr 12:43:38 padre, why don't you get a real irc client at home? 12:43:41 Bye padre 12:43:44 well pearl harbor wasn't THAT bad 12:43:45 ZenGonzMoO> it isn't bad, just a very soft ending 12:43:45 not my comp at home 12:43:46 There are far more than that 12:43:49 Gelfling! Haha! 12:43:53 pearl harbor was pretty good :) 12:43:54 <-- Padre8 (~wmsd49@d-131-151-185-079.dynamic.umr.edu) has left #moo3 12:44:05 but that's just my opinion ;P 12:44:09 Pearl Harbor wasn't bad, just not good 12:44:25 band of brothers, now that's a good thing to watch :D 12:44:31 it's a miniseries, but still 12:44:33 extremely true Piotr 12:44:43 Although, the Warhawks out turning Zeros was complete poop 12:44:47 * Ohnogdzilla begins randomly and aimlessly rampaging his way around 12:44:48 Just not in any way, at all, conceivably 'good' .. by which I mean it was totally, painfully and undeniably 'bad'. 12:45:09 Band of Brothers, that was awsome 12:45:09 PRIVMSG #moo3 :lol 12:45:15 yeah.. 12:45:23 * mmurray821 smacks Ohnogdzilla upside the head with a pet Silicoid 12:45:25 i bought the dvd set 12:45:33 emm Zcenicx "PRIVMSG #moo3" dat thing aint workin 12:45:33 still need to watch all the bonus material 12:45:34 I want the dvd set 12:45:39 * Ohnogdzilla shakes his head 12:45:41 i'm not particularly fond of war movies in general 12:45:46 My wife refused to give it to me 12:45:53 mmurray821, dump her 12:45:58 ;P 12:45:59 ha-ha-ha 12:46:06 they're either "America is great!" or "War is evil!" messages blown up to 2 hours of pictures 12:46:10 Well, she doesn't mind my computer gaming 12:46:17 KEEP HER! 12:46:21 I like war flicks 12:46:25 twex: Patton. 12:46:25 I like war movies that just tell the story. 12:46:25 my gf likes watching me play games 12:46:27 *boggle* 12:46:38 she hates playing them herself 12:46:39 Loved Band of Brothers for example... 12:46:39 Like Tora! Tora! Tora! .. the greatest war movie I have ever seen. 12:46:41 but likes watching me play them 12:47:12 Murray: I have the metal box of BoB 12:47:17 well, except for starcraft, she used to like playing that with me 12:47:21 but that was a while back 12:47:22 Piotr: Sounds like she just wants to take part with you in something you love. 12:47:28 mayhap 12:47:35 * Ohnogdzilla has a shoe he pretends is a dvd player 12:47:36 but she keeps asking me to play diablo because she likes to watch it, lol 12:47:42 even when i'm doing other stuff 12:48:03 Ohnogdzilla, the sound quality must suck :/ 12:48:04 Pearl Harbour though was pure Scheisse imho 12:48:05 I like GOOD war flicks 12:48:16 Aboraxxaly 12:48:17 Behind Enemy Lines was complete poop too 12:48:25 i'm trying to upgrade to a nike 12:48:30 :D 12:48:36 I can get 5.1 dolby off a nike 12:48:57 you should just put the dvd in a blondes mouth, all that empty space in her head will make for good bass 12:49:00 With the $150 pump, you can pump it up to 5.9 dolby 12:49:03 What were some good ones, mmurray? 12:49:20 Piotr, you sound blonde 12:49:29 i was when i was a kid, but my hair got dark ;P 12:49:35 so i can make fun of blondes :D 12:49:35 Patton was a good story, not quite historically accurate, but a good movie 12:49:38 and the empty space? 12:49:42 When Trumpets Fade was a great movie 12:49:44 it filled up. 12:49:54 heheh 12:50:13 Apocalypse Now, Full Metal Jacket, The Thin Red Line...those were good 12:50:15 Father Goose 12:50:15 Behind Enemy Lines looked awful. 12:50:27 behind enemy lines was.. well 12:50:31 The Thin Red line I thought was the worst movie I ever saw 12:50:34 I didn't like Thin Red Line .. I prefer the stories with plot. 12:50:43 Oh 12:50:45 Not that Thin Red Line wasn't a well-made movie .. 12:50:47 it was all 'america is good, everyone else is bad, we're the best!' 12:50:50 But it was more abstract and such. 12:50:51 no, there are much worse movie than the thin red line... 12:50:52 The whole time I was thinking, "Ok, what is the point here? 12:50:54 i didn't like it much 12:51:03 More psychological than a war narrative. 12:51:08 ZenGonzMoO: Well it was a very philosophical anti-war movie 12:51:11 geez, what a coincidence hollywood is producing so many propaganda war movies while the USA are preparing for a real war 12:51:14 You just didn't get it then 12:51:14 I was happy that joker was shot in the end 12:51:15 lol 12:51:15 Zen, exactly 12:51:21 Mictian: I realize .. and I got it .. 12:51:27 I just didn't enjoy it. I know war is bad. 12:51:29 i can't remember thin red line 12:51:30 hrm 12:51:42 twex- watch yourself .... That is pulling toward the politics nono 12:51:43 twex it's not like that has been exclusive to a wartime economy or anything... 12:52:03 <-- Nickfan has quit (Quit: Leaving) 12:52:08 politics a no-no here? 12:52:10 eh... A good anti-war movie is All Quiet on the Western Front, 12:52:14 VERY MUCH A NONO 12:52:21 BIG SCREAMING NONO 12:52:24 'rah rah!' movies always sell because it makes middle america feel like they are safe, secure, and right in not questioning anything 12:52:30 twex: We've had several quite heated polical debates in the last few days 12:52:40 So true rantz 12:52:41 isn't that a GOOD thing? 12:52:45 twex: So it's pretty much a no no. Unfortunately :( 12:52:46 Nope 12:52:51 No... :) 12:53:02 Nope 12:53:03 twex, not here it ain't folks can't play nice ;) 12:53:03 It angries up the blood 12:53:07 same with religion 12:53:09 twex: It is good if the participants respect each other's views 12:53:20 twex: But that rarely happens 12:53:26 I love a good politica debate, but it doesn't happen often. 12:53:31 so, I'm opening a cafepress store 12:53:31 Hey! I played nice yesterday... 12:53:32 People get upset 12:53:34 People tend to fall from grace and start flaming :( 12:53:39 (to change the subject) 12:53:40 wouldn't it be smart to punish just the guys who cross the line instead of outlawing debates in general? 12:53:51 Rantz: Tell us more of this cafepress store :) 12:53:55 Respecting another participant's views = smacking one another with inflatable Mrrshans and the like. 12:53:58 Yes Cafepress! 12:54:04 twex: That would involve banning half the room 12:54:12 will there be a shirt? 12:54:13 heh 12:54:21 or mug? 12:54:29 Cafepress? 12:54:34 I have a mousepad I had made 12:54:42 Remind me to send you one Rantz 12:54:47 twex: Well, I just _love_ talking about politics. But it can get heated (always does here), and it's not really the purpose of this chatroom... 12:54:53 Postcards? 12:55:04 --- ChanServ sets channel limit to 52 12:55:14 true, the purpose of this chat room is to get impatient and grumpy about the release date. ;) 12:55:24 --> Veky (Vex@d-zg1-211.globalnet.hr) has joined #moo3 12:55:50 * Piotr ponders playing splinter cell 12:55:53 I'm always grumpy 12:55:58 So how 'bout them t-shirts? 12:56:06 godzilla yes there will be 12:56:08 I can destify on that 12:56:12 and a coffee mug as well 12:56:17 --> mainer (mainer@pool-151-196-35-18.balt.east.verizon.net) has joined #moo3 12:56:20 <-- mainer (mainer@pool-151-196-35-18.balt.east.verizon.net) has left #moo3 12:56:28 will those be sold on online-store? 12:56:32 Any chance of promo SimHo stuff? 12:56:39 I got to get one of em 12:56:56 I could go for a coffee mug... 12:57:06 Do we really want t-shirts commemorating the time we were waiting for this game to come out? 12:57:12 boxer shorts 12:57:12 I like the Apolyton's "My words are backed with nuclear weapons" mug 12:57:20 I'd rather have stuff about the game itself. 12:57:33 Like, say .. the game itself. 12:57:36 My actions are backed with a good ass-kicking 12:57:50 Maybe a mrrshan fur rug 12:57:52 Murray having a bad day? 12:57:54 My actions are backed with falling down in a fit of spasms. 12:58:04 Nope, I'm just violent 12:58:09 my actions are backed by caramel 12:58:17 And chewy, chewy chocolate. 12:58:20 Grim, I'm thinking there will be a SimHo shirt and a 'Holy Fighter' game t -shirt 12:58:24 with crispy rice 12:58:27 the antaran threats from moo2 would make good tshirt prints, i think 12:58:30 Mmm, chocolate .. aughlaughlaughl .. 12:58:32 <--- Can you tell he will play the Ithkul first? 12:58:36 please! 12:58:53 Murray: I never would have guessed :) 12:59:11 are the New Orions playable? 12:59:12 Rantz. That it fantastic. :) 12:59:19 twex: no 12:59:33 ah, too bad 12:59:35 will the shirt have the "Breadbox" line on the back...followed by the "Harvest begins..." line? 13:00:10 --- ChanServ sets channel limit to 53 13:00:10 so how about those harvesters... 13:00:17 * Ohnogdzilla runs and hides 13:00:33 No publisher wants to touch Holy Fighter either for some reason... *sniff* 13:00:39 --- You have new mail (9508 messages, 9691601 bytes total). 13:00:48 awwwwwww 13:00:58 PRIVMSG #moo3 :PRIVMSG #moo3 :I'd love the bredbox line on front and the real thing on back 13:01:04 I'll buy the mug anyway. 13:01:11 Same here 13:01:25 holy fighter of what? Islam? Al-Qaida? 13:01:42 It's a fighting game like Virtua Fighter or Soul Caliber 13:01:54 but you choose various dieties... 13:02:04 Sweet 13:02:07 NOW FIGHTING... 13:02:11 JESUS 13:02:11 omg, how politically incorrect 13:02:11 That sounds amazing 13:02:15 VERSUS 13:02:20 BUDDHA! 13:02:24 FIGHT! 13:02:29 Fist of God! 13:02:35 I find myself amused, yet slightly offended 13:02:37 'Stigmata Ray!' 13:02:41 So unpolitically correct I gotta buy it! 13:02:42 Prayer Bowl Punch Attack! 13:02:44 Belly Smash!' 13:02:53 'Sodoma & Gomorrah!' 13:02:56 lol 13:02:58 lol 13:03:02 That is amazing 13:03:05 I must own it 13:03:14 Politically uncorrect only to the conservative and god fearing americans :) 13:03:17 * mmurray821 hates the PC crowd 13:03:21 Altar Boy Purity Punch! 13:03:23 we actually designed the whole thing while I was at Disney... 13:03:28 * Ohnogdzilla taunts the pc crowd 13:03:36 Hehehhehheheeheehe 13:03:42 i kinda prefer PC over the alternatives 13:03:49 --> moomin (moomin@host213-122-152-112.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #moo3 13:03:49 Mict: Actually, the major PC people in the US are liberals 13:03:56 hi 13:04:02 I had a bunch of fun last night 13:04:03 whoooa rantz on again 13:04:10 The God fearing, definately the conservitives 13:04:20 We actually talked about doing a 'Spinal Tap' type of movie about a developer who keeps making games no publisher would touch... following their career from the atari 2600 age to current 13:04:23 wheres mah @ beaches 13:04:31 * mmurray821 slaps moomin around a bit with a large inflateable Mrrshan 13:04:33 Murray: I didn't quite get your point/meaning? 13:04:52 and getting cameos from various industry folks... like Will Wright explaining why They had to Sue SimHo 13:04:52 You were lumping both traits to one group. 13:04:55 "This is "? 13:05:05 --- ChanServ sets channel limit to 54 13:05:05 eep politics 13:05:18