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21:06 -!- Chantz [Infogrames@pool-141-157-172-183.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #moo3
21:06 < acenoid> hey!
21:06 <+jp161> MoO! Chantz!
21:06 < acenoid> :)
21:06 < acenoid> now the big announcement finally :D
21:06 < DarkMage> it probably just configures a pif for you for memory, but it works without any configuring myself
21:06 < illum-> where can I find this.... mysterious magic bullet
21:06 < Chantz> lol!
21:06 < Padre8> the problem I had with privateer is I kept getting something along the lines of "memory not responding to EMM function calls.  Change NOEMS to RAM to fix the problem"
21:06 < acenoid> no sorry i shut up :)
21:06 <+jp161> We are waiting.. :)
21:06 < Padre8> CHANTZ IS HERE!!!
21:06 < DarkMage> http://ntvdm.cjb.net/
21:06 < illum-> cheers
21:07 < Padre8> yea!
21:07 < Chantz> ah, xms, ems, voodoo, those were the days
21:07 < acenoid> how are the balls that the cheer leaders have are called?:)
21:07 < illum-> please... no chantz
21:07 < acenoid> i dont know the english word and in germany we dont have much cheerleaders :D
21:07 < illum-> it hurts ;\
21:07 < kebzero> <returns to window> Greets, Chantz. 
21:07 < illum-> reminds me of the days trying to get Jungle/Desert strike to work
21:07 < acenoid> uh desert strike?
21:08 < Chantz> yes, but it;s funny how even tho you jumped through HOOPS to get games to run
21:08 < illum-> the first
21:08 < acenoid> there was a gfx intensive game called strike commander i think
21:08 < Chantz> way back when
21:08 < acenoid> was it any good?
21:08 < Padre8> heh
21:08 < illum-> the horror.... the horror.. of win3x/dos
21:08 < acenoid> kebzero you were gone?:)
21:08 < Padre8> I learned how to do nearly everything in dos just to run games
21:08 < Padre8> I was a dos god :)
21:08 < acenoid> hehe
21:08 < Chantz> they somehow seem more innovative and fresh, even playing them now...
21:08 <+jp161> So no Gold.... :(
21:09 < DarkMage> between getting sound, cdroms, and memory working in dos
21:09 < DarkMage> I learned so much
21:09 < illum-> truely
21:09 < kebzero> Acenoid, I consider myself "gone" when I don't watch each new sentence appear. ;-)
21:09 < acenoid> just install queem :)
21:09 < Chantz> jp, no comment ;)
21:09 < Padre8> yeah, that's why I want to get privateer to work, that's probably one of my favorite games, right up there with the MOO's
21:09 < illum-> sound especially
21:09 <+jp161> chantz: ;)
21:09 < Chantz> mmmmm. privateer
21:09 < illum-> Irq... dma... general midi for music
21:09 < acenoid> :)
21:09 < Chantz> DMA...setting jumpers on cards...
21:09 < DarkMage> I actually prefer Civ1 dos to civ1 win, civnet, or civ2/3
21:09  * illum- shudders
21:09 < DarkMage> dos games had a kind of fun simplicity to them
21:09 < Padre8> heh
21:10 < illum-> thank god for directx
21:10 < DarkMage> kind of like old nes and arcade games
21:10 < Chantz> outta those 3, civ 2 for me
21:10 < acenoid> i know when windows came along with acpi.. everythink was jumpered to irq 9 i was shocked :)
21:10 < Chantz> lol!
21:10 < DarkMage> my bios sets everything to irq 9
21:10 <+jp161> :)
21:10 < DarkMage> and windows switches them all to everything else
21:10 < Chantz> yep
21:10 < DarkMage> i dont really care as long as i dont have to mess with it
21:10 < acenoid> anyways windows sucks :D
21:10 < DarkMage> and everything works
21:11 < illum-> win2k thankfully allows safe irq sharing to a degree
21:11 < DarkMage> sometimes things break and I have to manually give stuff their own irq's
21:11 < Padre8> I wouldn't mind windows so much if it was backward compatable...
21:11 < DarkMage> I have more irq issues in linux than I do windows :P
21:11 < acenoid> did you know? DR DOS is coming back
21:11 < acenoid> :)
21:11 < Chantz> xp good, once you master it and disable all crap
21:11 < DarkMage> I was so scared at the default scheme for XP
21:11 < DarkMage> I ran screaming back to 2k
21:11 < acenoid> Chantz running xp here its truly the best windows version available...
21:11 < Padre8> I uprgaded to XP from ME.  If you have ME, GET XP!!!!
21:11 < Chantz> wow, dr dos...i used that ALL the time, Norton Commander too
21:11 < acenoid> amongst 2k of course :)
21:12 < acenoid> dr dos was soo cool :)
21:12 < acenoid> and novell dos
21:12 <+jp161> 2000 > XP
21:12 < acenoid> i dared to print the whole manual
21:12 < Chantz> me blows chunks, worse than 98SE
21:12 < DarkMage> I still have IBM PC-DOS 2.2 disks
21:12 < acenoid> on the next morning i woke up
21:12 < Padre8> yeah...
21:12 < DarkMage> for my PCjr
21:12 < acenoid> and all the endless-paper was gone for my prrinter
21:12 < DarkMage> i still have 3 PCjr's plugged in
21:12 < Chantz> has a dual boot for ages until i upgraded to XP
21:12 < illum-> Win2000 will do very nicely... *stares at palladium*
21:12 < acenoid> and in front of the device was a pile of paper... :)
21:13 < illum-> log off for vdm
21:13 < DarkMage> I have the enhanced model of the PCjr, it came with...a floppy drive, and 256k more than the standard ram, a huge 512k
21:13 < acenoid> see ya soon illum-
21:13 < acenoid> :)
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21:13 < Chantz> :)
21:13 < acenoid> pcjr? :)
21:13 < Chantz> ibm..
21:13 < DarkMage> yeah, it was an old 8088 from IBM
21:14 < Chantz> yep
21:14 < DarkMage> it had an infared keyboard standard
21:14 < acenoid> that was before my time :)
21:14 < DarkMage> and a cartridge slot
21:14 < acenoid> my first pc was a 386 :)
21:14 < Padre8> mine was an 8088
21:14 < acenoid> and then a cyrix (first and last cpu from then)
21:14 < Padre8> well, the family's anyway.  I was about 5 then :)
21:14 < DarkMage> I went from PCjr to a 386, worst thing about it, it was a packard bell and the cpu was soldered on
21:14 -!- illum [_illuminat@modem-2428.lemur.dialup.pol.co.uk] has joined #moo3
21:14 < DarkMage> so it wasnt upgradable
21:15 < DarkMage> then to a p2-300, nice jump
21:15 < DarkMage> then to this p4 1.7
21:15 < acenoid> :]
21:15 < acenoid> lol
21:15 < Chantz> :)
21:15 < illum> gah assertion error
21:15 < DarkMage> does pezman show up anymore
21:15 < Chantz> kyles busy...
21:15 < DarkMage> used to work on stomped.com with him, need to catch up
21:15 < Chantz> very vey busy
21:15 < acenoid> 386 -> 486dx50 -> 486dx4(?)100 -> p166 -> p450 -> 1 ghz athlon -> ??? :)
21:16 < Padre8> Right now, I'm home, on a p2 266...  because I decided to leave my p4 1.4 at school :*(
21:16 < Chantz> ouch
21:16 < DarkMage> poor stomped
21:16  * DarkMage cries
21:16 < DarkMage> they totally ran that thing into the ground
21:16 < Padre8> not doing that again :)
21:16 < Chantz> still, gid up a copy of pirates and have a go!
21:16 < acenoid> lol
21:16 < DarkMage> pirates! the original?
21:16 < Chantz> dig, that is!
21:17 < Padre8> lol
21:17 < Chantz> gold version
21:17 < DarkMage> ahh
21:17 < acenoid> pirates rules...
21:17 < DarkMage> I have the original :P
21:17 < Chantz> indeed
21:17 < DarkMage> on 5.25" floppies
21:17 < acenoid> played it night and day 
21:17 < Chantz> yep
21:17 < DarkMage> but disk1 is broken
21:17 < DarkMage> so its useless
21:17 < DarkMage> except for nostalgia
21:17 < DarkMage> which alone is worth keeping it on the shelf :P
21:17 < Chantz> try underdogs 
21:18 < DarkMage> I swear im the only person in the world that still has a 5.25" in on their 686 class cpu :P
21:18 < Padre8> yeah, they have all sorts of old games :)
21:18 < illum> oh dear... vbm beta gives odd assertion errors
21:18 < DarkMage> did you get the frontend, illum
21:18 < DarkMage> the front end helps much
21:18 < acenoid> DarkMage true .. but i still have one in the cellar :)
21:18 < DarkMage> well i have a 3.5, 5.25 combo drive, so i keep it for people saying 'wtf' rights
21:19 < illum> frontend? I do have it intergrated into explorer if thats what you mean
21:19 < Padre8> lol
21:19 < DarkMage> and since its not really taking up more room than needbe, it doesnt hurt
21:19 < acenoid> never had problems with vdmssound just rightclick on it while on the exe icon of the game
21:19 < DarkMage> I forget what they call it
21:19 < DarkMage> launchpad it hink
21:19 < acenoid> and then of you go or you start it from cmd.exe with dosdrv.bat
21:19 < acenoid> i think
21:19 < DarkMage> you gotta have the launchpad AND the drivevs
21:19 < DarkMage> did you download both files, illum?
21:19 < DarkMage> drivers, cant type
21:19 < illum> I just have the latest zip for the beta
21:20 < DarkMage> think that is just the launchpad
21:20 < illum> actually I lost the url since I logged off ;p
21:20 < DarkMage> sec
21:20 < DarkMage> i'll get you the filename
21:20 < illum> cheers
21:20 < DarkMage> http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/vdmsound/VDMSound-2.0.4-WinNT-i386.msi
21:20 < DarkMage> is the actual drivers
21:20 < acenoid> chantz any news? :)
21:20 < illum> thanks
21:21 < Chantz> looking good
21:21 < Padre8> So, the Great Bug Quashing goes well?
21:21 < Chantz> yes indeedy
21:21 < acenoid> sorry that i ask but i couldnt bear it any longer :D
21:21 < Chantz> s'ok
21:22 < XipeTotec> heh
21:22 < Chantz> been playing latest rev; pretty solid
21:22 < XipeTotec> yay for things that don't crash
21:22 < Padre8> woo!
21:22 < acenoid> its just well you know ... i wanna try the game and see if its as good as QS and the BTs say :D and if it can keep up the moo flag :D
21:22 < Chantz> someone somewhere *will* have a crash
21:22 < Padre8> sounds good to moi :)
21:23 < kebzero> As long as Toproq didn't return... ;-)
21:23 < Chantz> we just want all *our* known crash bugs out out out
21:23 < acenoid> i hope iam not somewhere :D
21:23 < Padre8> not the crash part, the solid part
21:23 < XipeTotec> Crashes don't happen if I refuse to believe in them
21:23 < acenoid> hehe
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21:23 < acenoid> XipeTotec :)
21:23 < DarkMage> excuse my ignorance
21:23 < DarkMage> but who's chantz :P
21:23 < illum> thats a breath of fresh air from devs these days
21:23 < illum> :)
21:23 < acenoid> some grunt of QSI :)
21:23 <+jp161> But I hope it will come out before my birthday! and better yet, It would be in Finland by then! (feb 18th *wink* *wink*)
21:23 < Padre8> infogrames producer
21:23 < Chantz> yes, i do not work for qsi
21:24 < Chantz> but i do work *with* them
21:24 < INA-Guest1> i have a question ...i need some help on an old game..plz
21:24 <+jp161> MoO! If you have questions regarding UT or anything else than Master of Orion series, please, type exactly /join #ut2003 and ask your questions there!
21:24 < acenoid> iam going to lithuania on 6th of jan for one week if the game gets delivered in the meantime to my adress i kill everyone here :D
21:24 <+jp161> ;)
21:24 < XipeTotec> Woohoo!
21:24 < DarkMage> depends what the old game is :P
21:24 < XipeTotec> Murder!
21:24 -!- Thalanor [~Infograme@Dorm-OffCampus.Fullerton.EDU] has joined #moo3
21:24 <+jp161> MoO!
21:24 < XipeTotec> MOO!
21:24 < Thalanor> Moo the force be with you!
21:24 <+jp161> It is "M" "o" "O" "!"
21:24 < INA-Guest1> the game is " 9"
21:25 < illum> gah restarting
21:25 <+jp161> Hey Chantz! Is Master of Orion III correct?
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21:25 < acenoid> lol
21:25 < Padre8> hmmm... I haven't heard of that one...
21:25 <+jp161> like in MoO?
21:25 < DarkMage> space 9?
21:25 < INA-Guest1> maybe called the last resort
21:25 -!- mode/#moo3 [+l 34] by ChanServ
21:25 < acenoid> psi9 trading company?:)
21:25 < Thalanor> What did Chantz give us the honor off joining the chat?
21:25 < kebzero> As opposed to... what? MoO ]I[ ?
21:25 < Chantz> 9 with Aerosmith, that one?
21:25 <+jp161> MOO or moo
21:25 < INA-Guest1> yeah thats it
21:25 < XipeTotec> As opposed to the correct acronymn of "MOO"
21:25 < DarkMage> mOo i1l
21:26 < Chantz> wow
21:26 < Chantz> called that one
21:26 < DarkMage> heh, aerosmith
21:26 < acenoid> MoO ]I[
21:26 < acenoid> :)
21:26 < XipeTotec> Aerosmith makes me laugh
21:26 < acenoid> me crying :)
21:26 <+jp161> Correct acronym is MoO! right?
21:26 < DarkMage> their ride at disney world rules
21:26 < Chantz> guest, have no idea...bad game, bad idea
21:26 < DarkMage> too bad you have to sit through them talking to get on it
21:26 < INA-Guest1> i was wondreing what the pass code for the front door is?
21:26 < XipeTotec> heh
21:27 < INA-Guest1> i think the same but this is for afriend...
21:27 < XipeTotec> Why would you want to ride the Aerosmith ride when you could ride Mr. Toads Wild Adventure?
21:27 < Chantz> search the web for hints and tips for 9
21:27 < DarkMage> different park!
21:27 < XipeTotec> Google is your friend
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21:27 < DarkMage> aersmoth is in MGM i think
21:27 <+jp161> MoO!
21:27 < DarkMage> aerosmith too
21:27 < acenoid> anyone knows the secret pass to geet into the castle wolfenstein game?:)
21:27 < XipeTotec> you said Disny World
21:27 < Padre8> mmm... Google
21:27 < INA-Guest1> any site more helpful htan others?
21:27 < Thalanor> MoO III
21:27 < acenoid> gold? 
21:27 < DarkMage> well MGM is part of disney world
21:27 < XipeTotec> oh
21:27 < XipeTotec> good point
21:27 < Thalanor> That would be a nice xmas present,.
21:27 < DarkMage> but toad's ride is in the magic kingdom :P
21:27 < XipeTotec> MGM was stupid
21:28 < DarkMage> MGM sucked, but it had the aerosmith ride :P
21:28 < DarkMage> the whole park kind of sucked unless you're with a kid :P
21:28 < Chantz> folks, gotta sign off, i'm in beta chat and delphis new chat just crashed...
21:28 <+jp161> CU!
21:28 < XipeTotec> Have fun CHantz
21:28 < DarkMage> cya chantz
21:28 < Chantz> i'll stop in later 
21:28 < Chantz> peace
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